M112 kit *FINAL PRICING: post 1898* - Page 38

03sixbanger · 02-04-2008, 08:41 PM

said it was a 2.5 but i think its a 3......and is the windstar lower any shorter??

**mysteed** · 02-04-2008, 08:43 PM

No, it is taller.

03sixbanger · 02-04-2008, 08:44 PM

well thats gay....it would take forever to get my plate redone

**mysteed** · 02-04-2008, 08:48 PM

Then make due with it bro. What gasket are you going to run between the lower intake and the adaptor? Is it a paper gasket or a rubber gasket?

03sixbanger · 02-04-2008, 08:53 PM

i guess the paper one cuz its not thick at all

**mysteed** · 02-04-2008, 08:58 PM

Good call. Plus it's cheaper.

03sixbanger · 02-04-2008, 09:01 PM

shew im worried it aint gunna fit....matt said he has a 2.5" plate with a .5" spacer and it fits under a 2.5" hood.....well i have a 3.0" plate and either a 2.5" or 3" hood so surely it will fit

fbcbeer · 02-04-2008, 09:06 PM

I really hope I dont have to get a 4 inch cowl for this m112..

Actually, I saw someone have just a stock gt hood with the m112. Ill look for pics and edit this post.

Here is the pic. It is from Tomzac's m112 car.

Also, here is a video of the m112 v6 with a stock hood.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/6...4d01854b5b.htm

03sixbanger · 02-04-2008, 09:09 PM

tomzac.....fit under his scoop and he notched it out a little in front of the scoop

RustyRodder · 02-05-2008, 08:51 AM

****, that looks cool!

Spoiled · 02-05-2008, 08:54 AM

What is the Mysteed for MOD kick?

**taylor0987** · 02-05-2008, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 03sixbanger

said it was a 2.5 but i think its a 3......and is the windstar lower any shorter??

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Originally Posted by mysteed

No, it is taller.

the Windstar, Mustang, and F150/E150/E250 lower intake manifolds are all the same height. It's the upper intakes that are taller.

Ohio232Stang · 02-05-2008, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mysteed

Okay, 2 "small" updates guys.

1: I'm giving the guy that is making the prototype till the end of the week to be finished. After that I will go to my secondary sourse who has done these intakes before.

2: Matt and I were talking tonight and we have figured out a way for you guys to keep the stock radiatior hose! So that means the swap will take even less time. In ordder to keep it we simply have to move the secondary idler to a different location.

#2 is very interesting im trying to wonder where it could be moved too. Cause i can't stand modding the radiator hose like i have done it is prone to failure once you cut it.

03sixbanger · 02-05-2008, 09:41 AM

is yours still not finished ohio???.....and there was a pic a few posts back that showed the new idlers and the belt route

LilRoush · 02-05-2008, 10:42 AM

I'm working on the idler this week at my place as well. I'll keep adding stuff as we get it worked out. Some of the ideas that came out of the talking are going to be great.

03sixbanger · 02-05-2008, 10:44 AM

hey matt that one idler abve the alternator you and nathan posted...was it coming off the alternator bolt??

Avaric3 · 02-05-2008, 12:19 PM

how much can the m112 bracket be shortened and rewelded? if i were to do that could it possibly fit under a stock or termi hood?

Ohio232Stang · 02-05-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 03sixbanger

is yours still not finished ohio???.....and there was a pic a few posts back that showed the new idlers and the belt route

no not yet. ran short on funds. but im up and rolling again. I plan on getting it dynoed this spring and I will be making my own m112 thread once i get a few more items finished

LilRoush · 02-05-2008, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Avaric3

how much can the m112 bracket be shortened and rewelded? if i were to do that could it possibly fit under a stock or termi hood?

ZERO - If we could have gone lower we would have. It has to clear ERG, Coolant lines and most importatly the stock fuel rail. That is really the limiting height factor. The fuel injector length requires the rail to be a certain height off the heads. Without major changes, it's got to be where it's at. If you wanted to invest in modification to make it lower - you'd defeat the idea of making it cheap and easy.

LilRoush · 02-05-2008, 02:13 PM

A note on Tomzac's set up: He modified the fuel rail alot to get it to sit that low. I didn't want to have that to mess with to keep it simple and easy for any owener to self install.

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Originally Posted by 03sixbanger

hey matt that one idler abve the alternator you and nathan posted...was it coming off the alternator bolt??

I ran mine just like that (without the added pulley between the alt and the blower). That idea popped up the other night. It would have to be mounted off the alt bracket in theory. I'm also working on another solution today. I'm getting side tracked trying to do a full new exhaust and revamp the front suspension at the same time.

**mysteed** · 02-05-2008, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohio232Stang

#2 is very interesting im trying to wonder where it could be moved too. Cause i can't stand modding the radiator hose like i have done it is prone to failure once you cut it.

If you do the radiator hose right it won't fail. Mine has been in it's current condition for over a year and it's just fine.

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Originally Posted by LilRoush

I'm working on the idler this week at my place as well. I'll keep adding stuff as we get it worked out. Some of the ideas that came out of the talking are going to be great.

Sweet. Keep us updated.

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Originally Posted by 03sixbanger

hey matt that one idler abve the alternator you and nathan posted...was it coming off the alternator bolt??

Yes, but it requires a mod to the stock idler pulley, longer bolt, and a spacer.

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Originally Posted by LilRoush

A note on Tomzac's set up: He modified the fuel rail alot to get it to sit that low. I didn't want to have that to mess with to keep it simple and easy for any owener to self install.

What did he do to his fuel rails?

Avaric3 · 02-05-2008, 04:20 PM

dont quote me on this, but i think he bent them back slightly

fbcbeer · 02-05-2008, 04:41 PM

Yeah, on his cardomain, he said he slightly bends them.

luniz7 · 02-05-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Rustyrodder

will there be a hotline if soemthing goes wrong?

i wish i still had the sixxer to do this

make one for a inline 6

LilRoush · 02-07-2008, 10:25 AM

Ok, sorry for not posting much - my parents place only has dial up and it kills me.

After looking more, I've made some adjustments, but the box still can't be made to go lower without a custom fuel rail and shorter injectors.... which if I remember right means you'll be getting 60 lbers.

Here's a shot of how I just ran my belt to skip the A/C pulley. I don't have A/C on my car anyway - it's just the delete pulley kit. This is without adding an extra pulley at all for those who want to go this route. Forgive only posting one pic - but seriously dial up isn't the way to go to load pics. I'll post more when I get back to MN this weekend.

My car has been at the shop for the past day getting some welding on the exhaust done - so I don't have it sitting here. But this gives you an idea. I alos have pics showing it from the side to see just how high it sits in the 99-04 bodys since the slope of the hood/line of the fender is different. I'll post that later as well.

**mysteed** · 02-07-2008, 10:28 AM

Thanks for the update Matt. I see that you're still running the EGR and the DPFE stuff. Man you need to get rid of that junk asap.

edit: What belt are you running and what legnth is it?

LilRoush · 02-07-2008, 12:33 PM

Belt number is 5061075.

I kept the EGR and what not so it's still 100% smog legal and will pass an emissions check.

Avaric3 · 02-07-2008, 12:50 PM

can i assume that in order for me to get this to work, ill need to get rid of my termi hood?

could someone possibly make a list of all the hoods that would fit the m112 so i know wut to buy?

**mysteed** · 02-07-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LilRoush

Belt number is 5061075.

I kept the EGR and what not so it's still 100% smog legal and will pass an emissions check.

You're running a Dayco belt? It's only an inch shorter than the one that I'm running and I have a secondary idler and am using the AC.

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Originally Posted by Avaric3

can i assume that in order for me to get this to work, ill need to get rid of my termi hood?

could someone possibly make a list of all the hoods that would fit the m112 so i know wut to buy?

I would assume that as well.

As far as I know, there is on way for us to see exactly what hoods fit as Matt has his blower off right now and my car is totaled.

RustyRodder · 02-07-2008, 01:21 PM

^yup. which is why i decided to wait to order one. hate to spend 500 bucks and have to replace it...